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Aaron Kosminsky



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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2016 4:11 pm    Post subject: Some Other Time  Reply with quote

My copy of The Alan Hull Songbook's Some Other Time arrived in today's post.

I'm in no great hurry to listen to it and would prefer to hear some opinions on the subject before I do.

Anyone?
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2016 4:27 pm    Post subject: some other time Reply with quote

sorry can't help you A.K. still waiting for mine Sad
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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2016 4:24 pm    Post subject: Some Other Time Reply with quote

No doubt it will be along shortly. Thanks for replying anyway, Waldo.

I've still not listened to mine so I don't know what it's like. I must say that the titles don't hold out much promise, they don't show much imagination at all.
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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2016 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Waiting for mine. If it were here I wouldn't want to wait to hear the content.

Cant understand why you prefer not to listen till you've heard other peoples' opinions first.  It's whether you like that matters.

I don't worry about the title too much, "Winter Song", "January Song", "Song for the Bairns" are all just functional titles.  I listen to the song first, then go hunting for the title.
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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2016 7:24 pm    Post subject: Some Other Time: A+ from me! Reply with quote

Just as you shouldn't judge a book by it's cover, you can't judge an album by it's song titles! The titles are presumably true to Alan's originals and, as such are of "Some Other Time", i.e. the late 1960s.

Received my CD/LP yesterday and I am stunned by the variety of material on offer, the arrangements and the performances.  I had heard some of the songs being performed live at the Mining Institute in Newcastle last year which whetted my appetite for this superb collection.

All I can say in you are in for a treat- here are reborn treasures to savour. Well done Dave and Ian for your painstaking time and effort transferring these gems from demo tape to fully fledged realisations.

It's clear Alan was influenced by many musical sources and his creativity shines through in these marvellous re-workings.
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2016 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good point Derek,

I am judging a book by its cover amn't I?

Maybe I'll get round to listening next weekend. Maybe not. I do appreciate your enthusiastic assessment though.

This is such a big event - a rare occurrence in the LF diaspora these days - that I'm not sure I could take a disappointment.

I'll share my opinion on here when I have one!
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2016 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The chat is on the songbook fb site Aaron.
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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2016 8:59 am    Post subject: Facebook Reply with quote

Thanks Nothingbut,

I suspected as much!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 3:40 pm    Post subject: Some Other Time Reply with quote

I finally got round to listening to this CD this lunch time. I'm not sure what  I was the more afraid of - yet another crushing disappointment or having to admit to actually liking it.  

My immediate impressions - with the opening bars - were positive but it soon became apparent that this album is more piano orientated than I would have liked. If I had wanted Elton John, I would have bought Elton John.

Dave's vocal delivery holds up well throughout and it is to be doubted that anyone other than he could have interpreted this materially adequately in the absence of the great man himself.

This collection is probably worthwhile if only for the fact that we finally know whatever became of Clear White Light (I, one presumes).

Tracks 9 & 10 are obviously prototype versions of the song which eventually became When War is Over.  This helps to fuel a nagging sense that there is a reason why this material took almost half a century to see the light of day. To an extent at least, it is faithful to the spirit of scraping the bottom of the barrel which now mostly prevails on
Planet Lindisfarne. To state the obvious, it is aimed at a niche market to which, if I am true to myself, I no longer belong.

Will I give it another listen? Probably. Some Other Time.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 10:46 pm    Post subject: Some Other Time: still A+ from me! Reply with quote

I’m impressed by an album which gets better and better with every listen and astounded by just how well these songs have been arranged and performed. Although I may be biased being a pianist (of dubious talent!) myself, I like the mix of keyboard and guitar led material.

The inspired sequencing also emphasises the variety of the material giving a flow of “dark and light” which strengthens the album as an end-to-end listen.  One moment which takes my breath away is the following of “Opposites” with “I Am And So Are You”- that harmonica!.  Also, the upbeat “Love Lasts Forever” contrasts effectively with the brooding “Clear White Light”. Intrigued why the former isn't on the LP although it would deserve release as a non-album single!

The Debussy-esque piano of “Wild Flowers” is a highlight superbly complemented by the violin, as are the jazzy chord changes of “Little Things”. “297 Words” also benefits from Alan’s incursions into chord sequences which others like The Kinks (“No Return”), Paul McCartney (“Step Inside Love”) were experimenting with at the time- and still sound fresh after all these years.   Elsewhere, we have Alan’s seemingly effortless capability of writing highly effective melodies to counterpoint his unique bitter-sweet lyrics.  

There’s also the snippets which could have formed the basis for released songs.  I agree the verse tune of “Personal History Book” resembles that of “When The War Is Over” while a piece of phrasing on “Click-Clock Tick-Tock” mirrors that on “For The Bairns” from Pipedream.

A uniformly strong album with not a weak, or even mediocre track in sight- and I trust it will gather the good reviews it deserves! Hopefully R2 "Rock'n'Reel" in particular will give it good coverage; I do not agree this is a niche market product but one that deserves far wider exposure as a work of art in itself.

Far from scraping the bottom of the barrel, I feel this album rightly unearths rough hewn gems which remained buried purely because Alan was so prolific and quickly moved on to fresh material. These have now been polished to perfection, the variety of instrumental arrangements is a major plus point, and we have a product which both celebrates Alan's past and updates it for future consumption by a new generation.

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