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Mick

New Band Biography

I see that a new Lindisfarne biography is about to be published. I know nothing about it or the author, other than this - posted on the Lindisfarne Official Facebook page today.
Waldo

new biography

Interesting! thanks for sharing Mick. What new insights will be revealed? I haven't  read anything on the band since Dave Ian Hill's "Fog on the Tyne" which I enjoyed a lot.
JimW

What I'd like to read about is what originally made them split up.  I've read that there were tensions in the band or artist differences but I've never really fully understood why when they were making it big they decided to go in two different directions.
sbj54

Hello all and apologies for being late in putting in an appearance on here - it was on my list of things to do. I am the author, and it is being published hopefully in May, by Fonthill Media, who have also issued my books on Jeff Lynne/ELO, The Beatles, 'Pop Pickers and Music Vendors' (chapters on David Jacobs, Alan Freeman, John Peel, Tommy Vance and Roger Scott) and a couple of historical titles. Rod Clements and Ray Laidlaw very generously told me several things by e-mail which I had not found out anywhere else, and I have covered a few aspects which the book by Dave Ian Hill (which I enjoyed very much and found useful for much of the story) did not cover fully, like Ray Jackson's successful court case against EMI, and the Whigfield alleged plagiarism issue - as well as another inside take on the Gazza collaboration, and more recently the 'Maggie May' business which almost came to court but didn't. Two members of this forum also kindly contributed a number of images, some of which I had never seen before. I live in Devon, caught the group at their Tavistock Wharf gig in December (having seen other line-ups before in their heyday years ago - as far back as Barnstaple in July 1972), and had the pleasure of chatting to Rod and Steve Daggett after the gig.
Mr Inbetween

I'm looking forward to this.
JimW

sbj54 wrote:
Hello all and apologies for being late in putting in an appearance on here - it was on my list of things to do. I am the author, and it is being published hopefully in May, by Fonthill Media, who have also issued my books on Jeff Lynne/ELO, The Beatles, 'Pop Pickers and Music Vendors' (chapters on David Jacobs, Alan Freeman, John Peel, Tommy Vance and Roger Scott) and a couple of historical titles. Rod Clements and Ray Laidlaw very generously told me several things by e-mail which I had not found out anywhere else, and I have covered a few aspects which the book by Dave Ian Hill (which I enjoyed very much and found useful for much of the story) did not cover fully, like Ray Jackson's successful court case against EMI, and the Whigfield alleged plagiarism issue - as well as another inside take on the Gazza collaboration, and more recently the 'Maggie May' business which almost came to court but didn't. Two members of this forum also kindly contributed a number of images, some of which I had never seen before. I live in Devon, caught the group at their Tavistock Wharf gig in December (having seen other line-ups before in their heyday years ago - as far back as Barnstaple in July 1972), and had the pleasure of chatting to Rod and Steve Daggett after the gig.


I'm very much looking forward to reading your book when it comes out in May.  I visited the publisher's website and couldn't find anything on there.  Amazon have a basic page and are currently taking pre-orders with a price promise but it might help if pre-orders are channelled through the publisher as that will let them know of our interest.  I've read many things about what went on in the band and some of the reasons they went different ways but it would be great to see the definitive account.  I personally hated them letting Gazza lark around on 'fog on the Tyne' but can see both points of view with that decision.  Not wishing my life away but the book will be a nice birthday present in May.
sbj54

Thanks Jim. Fonthill will be adding the book to their website soon - the Facebook page was very much an advance announcement. The editors were thrilled by the response, so thank you to all on here and all who posted.  I wasn't the biggest fan of the Gazza collaboration either (have never been a football lover, or of football records), but it's clear that three of the group were very enthusiastic about it - as you said, there were two points of view. I also had a couple more little 'exclusive' insights into why they split in 1973, and again in 2003/4. Your interest is much appreciated, so I hope it will help to make your birthday!
sbj54

Proofs and index completed last week. The book will be going to print this week (beginning 3 April) for May publication.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/We-Can-S...mp;keywords=we+can+swing+together
JimW

sbj54 wrote:
Proofs and index completed last week. The book will be going to print this week (beginning 3 April) for May publication.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/We-Can-S...mp;keywords=we+can+swing+together


Amazon are taking pre-orders for a release date of 11th May and they have a discounted price of £14.88 instead of £16.99.  My hints for this book, for my birthday have gone in already.

Update 18th April 2017.

After yet another prompt my wife finally placed the order for this book at the weekend with Amazon.  What's a boy got to do to get what he wants for his birthday?

Still its all good.

Another Update.  Just received an email from Amazon saying the delivery date has been pushed back a week.  Not a major problem as long as it does turn up.
Waldo

mine too - not even my birthday :
-)
Mick

Sounds great. Hopefully it shall be gracing my shelf soon.
sbj54

The book is just out. I had my complimentary copies from Fonthill this week and I think it looks great. Thanks to everyone on here for their interest and hope you enjoy it!
StuartG

Excellent news. I see that Amazon are releasing in on 11th, but are offering a pre-order discount. I'm just about to press click.

(other shopping sites are available, and the author of this message takes no responsibility etc etc)
Mick

Just ordered mine.  Very Happy
Mick

Amazon have just sent me a message saying the book will be sent out on 17th May (next Wednesday)
Mick

Well, the book arrived today (15th May) and I will be having a read this evening.
Craig Johnson

Mine arrived over the weekend - looking forward to reading it over the next few weeks.
StuartG

And mine arrived while I was away last week, providing a welcome on the doormat. It's now sitting on a pile of books-yet-to-be-read, next to the pile of CDs yet-to-be-listened too.
JimW

Half Way Through.

Reading this book has highlighted to me again just what a phenomenon Lindisfarne really were considering what they were doing musically against a backdrop of early seventies music and the likes of Donny Osmond, Sweet  and Gary Glitter et al.  They burned brightly for a short while (probably longer in the US) and it all became a jaded mess.  Some of the band were driven and some they were not (see what I did there) Its actually difficult to understand how they achieved what they did and even more difficult to understand why they split in two at the point where I suspect they were about to make big money.  This book is so good I’m taking my time to read every page slowly so as to not miss anything.   Highly recommended for any Lindisfarne fan.
Michael

Yeah, I enjoyed it too.

It's a good companion piece to Dave Hill's great biog.. lots of insights, and a few eyebrow-raising moments. Worth a look.
JimW

Michael wrote:
Yeah, I enjoyed it too.

It's a good companion piece to Dave Hill's great biog.. lots of insights, and a few eyebrow-raising moments. Worth a look.


When I've finished this book is it worth reading Dave Hill's book?  Its available on the Kindle at £6.99 and I'm not sure if the photos will also be on there.  What else is there to know?
Michael

Dave's book is definitely worth the read.
Mick

Regarding the new book, there were some great parts, including anecdotes and information I hadn't come across before.  

However, I felt it glossed over Marty's departure and although there was a lot about Rod's solo work, the obvious topic of the lyrics to 'Dead Man's Karaoke' was also overlooked. And Rod's decision to return (to the current line up) when he had previously stated that he would never be involved in anything under the Lindisfarne name again was similarly ignored. Obviously Rod, like anyone else, is entitled to change his mind - and I for one am glad that he did - but this wasn't even touched upon.

Shame, really, because I enjoyed most of the book. I just thought it was a missed opportunity to shed new light on certain matters (particularly that second split back in 2003.)
JimW

Mick wrote:
Regarding the new book, there were some great parts, including anecdotes and information I hadn't come across before.  

However, I felt it glossed over Marty's departure and although there was a lot about Rod's solo work, the obvious topic of the lyrics to 'Dead Man's Karaoke' was also overlooked. And Rod's decision to return (to the current line up) when he had previously stated that he would never be involved in anything under the Lindisfarne name again was similarly ignored. Obviously Rod, like anyone else, is entitled to change his mind - and I for one am glad that he did - but this wasn't even touched upon.

Shame, really, because I enjoyed most of the book. I just thought it was a missed opportunity to shed new light on certain matters (particularly that second split back in 2003.)


There was a little mention of Rod getting his own back with the song 'Dead Mans Karaoke' which sort of hinted it was in response to something Alan Hull had written previously but it sort of ended there.  A missed opportunity perhaps?  I did learn some new stuff about the bands struggle to keep it all together as they were no long been seen as a band that could sell records.  There was me thinking they'd all gone on to be millionaires but as we know the money goes to the songwriters.  Jacka having to take up window cleaning I had forgotten about.  That should never have happened.
sbj54

Thanks everyone for the kind comments. Dave Ian Hill's book was a great starting point and I'm forever in its debt. I did however have the benefit of being able to bring the story up to the present day. Even now the book is in print, I'm still finding out things which it would have been great to put in if I had known earlier - something which any author in this field has to live with! I'd like to think however that I have got most of it somewhere in those pages. Rod and Ray L were very supportive, and as I acknowledged in the front, took a good deal of trouble to answer my questions very candidly, at some length, and were happy to be quoted - much appreciated, guys. Ray read through the draft before the final polishing and made some useful corrections (he was there and I wasn't, obviously...), and I had a very generous response from Rod once he had received and read his copy.
Re: Jim's comment above about the money going to the songwriters, very true. Just ask the past and present members of Slade!

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