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Aaron Kosminsky



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 1:45 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote

I kept the promise I made to Derek and listened to this CD again on Saturday.

There is of course a huge gamble involved in making a record like this - you have to stand in for Alan on vocals, guitar and piano and might very well fall well short of the mark, though that has not happened here.

My earlier comments were dismissive, churlish and undeserved. To that extent I apologise. The plain truth of the matter is that I almost never listen to Lindisfarne-related material these days and am struggling to get back into the genre.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your initial comments galvanised me into writing a mini-review which otherwise I might still be getting round to!  After a few days away I revisited the album and am more convinced than ever we have a work with staying power. The latter half of the 1960s was especially remarkable for creativity which swept away boundaries between musical, literary and spiritual genres to often stunning effect- and Alan was obviously one of those at the forefront.  

The album is a remarkable achievement. seemingly effortlessly capturing the spirit of the times. However, much effort must have gone into the transcribing, arranging and performing to achieve that result.

George Harrison was a pioneer in setting spiritual texts during this era; here Alan Hull, in "297 Words", adventurously but effectively turns the "Rubáiyát of Omar Khayyam" into song lyrics !
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Derek,

I completely agree with your comments about the second half of the sixties, very well put. One of the things that struck me instantly about this album is that it is very true to the ethos and production values of the time in which it was written.

Your second paragraph reminds me again that it would have been very easy to have got this album completely and embarrassingly wrong, recording almost 50 years after it was written and without the immediate input of its creator.

However, Dave and Ian, their friend on violin, and of course Ron the producer, have really done it justice.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Aaron,

I'm pleased you're enjoying the album, after your initial reservations, some of which I shared. As you and Derek have commented, these songs were of their time. This isn't an early Lindisfarne album, and few if any could ever have made it into a Lindisfarne set list. Maybe there's a couple which may have morphed into something like When the War is Over (as Derek spotted) or something akin to Angels at Eleven. On first hearing, I was impressed by the musicianship and production, but not entirely struck by the songs. It's grown on me considerably. My particular favourite is emerging as Personal History Book. I'm also taken by the gutsy interpretation of I Am And So Are You. Quite different from the Affinity and Capabilty Brown covers, and inclusive, I think, of a hitherto unknown chorus (I'm not sure this part works, though). Overall, it strikes me that there's a lot more piano than guitar, possibly representing Alan's prime instrument of the time.

What caught my eye in particular is the range of instruments in Ian's toy store. Rather like Rod, it seems there's much more to this chap than "just" a bass player. It doesn't mention upright bass, probably inappropriate for the time setting, though it sounds as if it's played at times, and to good effect.

My only disappointment is that my iTunes has taken a dislike to it, so although it will play the cd, it won't upload so I can copy to the ipod.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

heh Stuart My copy uploaded just fine to Itunes do you know what the issue is? has this happened before? if I can help in anyway let me know.
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Aaron Kosminsky



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Stuart,

Good to have your perspective. Yes, this album is Alan, long before Lindisfarne was even a twinkle in anyone's eye.

You're absolutely right, this is not a Lindisfarne album in any shape or form. Maybe that's why the songs got sidetracked, they just weren't right for the band.

Is there anything here you can imagine Jacka turning his hand to? As I recall, there was some rather excellent harmonica on at least one of the tracks.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Waldo,

Thanks for the offer. ITunes recognises the album and track listing, and will play it. But when I ask it to upload, I receive a message to say that a/the file can't be found. It's strange again because I uploaded it to Window Media Player ok, and have subsequently uploaded other albums to iTunes.


Hi Aaron,

Nothing stood  out as a potential Jacka song. I always regarded this as something of a qualifying test for a Lindisfarne song, but then, Alan sang nearly all of his songs himself.  The raunchy harmonica opens I Am And Etc, untypical of Dave's playing and not really Jacka's style either. Great stuff nevertheless.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Stuart,

Mind you, if you listen to Rod's solo version of MMOTC, it doesn't sound much like potential Jacka material either!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know what you mean. But then, it doesn't sound much like a Jacka song when I play it on the uke!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Erm no, I don't suppose it would!


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